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Manduck · 2011-11-13 03:30

Well I just picked up these issues today. I honestly don't have too much to say this time. As I sadly expected, neither issue was exceptional. Here's just a few (spoiler-filled notes.)

Darkwing: "No need to be afraid, Gosalyn! How we're going to explain this to Honker's parents? That I'm afraid of!" Uh, NOW he's worried about that? He's dragged the kid dozens of adventures decades ago.

After a horribly rushed fight with the Maleficent dragon, Monstro and Chernabog and the giant Honker monster (forgot if he's supposed to be based on some Disney movie villain), they cut immediately to the Money Bin - with not even a caption identifying it as such. If I didn't know better I'd say Kaboom just completely missed a page.

So Darkwing and Gizmoduck finally reunite and have absolutely zero of the chemistry they had in the original series. Disappointingly, they hardly had any interaction at all in this series. All Darkwing ever got to do in this series was admit some respect, which I honestly thought was kind of a nice out-of-character moment, but still I would've preferred it reverted once Gizmoduck was back to normal.

So Darkwing and Morgana finally reunite and Morgana's still just the damsel in the distress. Then again, I guess putting the spell on Negaduck was kind of significant.

Am I reading too much into this or "Too Bad we can't get in on the action. Or can we, Morgy-Baby?" sound just a little suggestive? I know the original series got some crap past the radar but...

Donald as Agent 44 was kind of nice twist. So I guess he's retired from the navy now, but his nephews are still are living with Scrooge - or are they? The new series never even got to show the Ducks at home? Given that the new series completely rewrite the original DuckTales continuity to incorporate Barks/Rosa continuity (as well as various other continuities) I honestly wouldn't be too surprised if the series continued that Scrooge (and maybe Huey, Dewey and Louie) would live in the Money Bin.

The cameo scene is kind of interesting. I think the only ones on the cover of DuckTales #5 who didn't appear in the actual issue (or either new comic series) are Grizlikoff, Sara Bellum, Stegmutt, Neptunia and Pete. But anyway I think they managed to get the entire DuckTales cast in the series. So Bubba - and the Genie Duck - are finally acknowledged. I honestly didn't care too much for either character, but I find it a little bothersome that Scrooge apparently abandoned two children he adopted. I'd prefer it if they just were left out of the story completely.

So Darkwing finally defeats Negaduck using Morgana's spell by telling him what a loner he is? (Groan) Awful cliche.

And the whole thing finally ends with Scrooge and Darkwing shaking hands. (Groan) Another awful cliche.

DuckburgUSA · 2011-11-14 22:56

Lars Jensen wrote:
The first four issues of DuckTales have now been compiled in a trade paperback. From what I hear, the problematic artwork from issue 3 has been redrawn for the trade.

True! I picked it up last week: the ENTIRE single page of Gladstone in the car covered by a dialogue balloon and the repeated Rockerduck panels has been re-drawn - it looks reasonably competent. I don't want to bend the spine on the TPB to scan it, but when I get a chance this week I will take a good, clear photo and post it here. There's a big difference. Many of the other poorly drawn panels and art conflicts still made it into the book, though.

Manduck wrote:
[Referencing the final two issues of kaboom's DuckTales/Darkwing Duck cross-over: "Dangerous Currency"]
As I sadly expected, neither issue was exceptional.

I think this cross-over unfortunately got rushed and a lot of compromises had to be made. From all I've read, it appears to have been a victim of "too many cooks" as far as the writing goes. It's too bad, because there was such outstanding potential to finally officially bring these two properties together. Lotta credit should be given to James Silvani for the extra work he put into these four issues, without his efforts, we might have experienced a far lesser product.

FAa · 2011-12-02 17:52

Sorry for the bad quality, I just used my mobile phone to take the pictures. Maybe DuckburgUSA will post some better ones later.
It's the same dialog, but you can see the entire page is redrawn (or should we say actually drawn) in the TPB:

I didn't find any more redrawn art in the TPB, but one page had some major color corrections:

kimba_1962 · 2011-12-02 21:54

FAa wrote:
Sorry for the bad quality, I just used my mobile phone to take the pictures. Maybe DuckburgUSA will post some better ones later.
It's the same dialog, but you can see the entire page is redrawn (or should we say actually drawn) in the TPB:

What's with the strange-looking eyes sported by Gladstone, Webby, and Cinnamon in the redrawn page?

FAa, do you have any information on who did this redrawing?

Vesuvius · 2011-12-02 23:43

The trade looks much better than the clip-art of the actual issue, but still isn't very good.

After reading the DuckTales/Darkwing Duck crossover, with it's rampant continuity errors, terrible dialogue, clumsily forced sentiment, and plot that made no sense whatsoever... I'm glad to see the BOOM/Kaboom era end. I only hope the complete lack of care they put into this license doesn't sink the chances of GOOD Disney comics being produced somewhere else.

I thought of writing a complete review of the crossover, but the more I look at it, the more I realize it's not even worth the effort. For 20 years fans have wanted to see these characters team-up, and this is what we got? For shame, BOOM. It's clear the writer, and the company at large, just didn't care. They just squeezed the last few dollars thay could out of a license they were losing. For shame, BOOM. For shame.

Roger North · 2011-12-03 01:35

I hope that the next company to publish Disney Comics will a better job than Boom Studios. I guess you can say that Boom Studios is the Whitman Publishing of the 21st Century.

Kurt Appel · 2011-12-03 09:44

Dear Roger, I think your verdict is not fair. Boom published - besides the innovative Darkwink stories - new (at least in the US) Disney material (always Barks and Rosa is boaring, you get everything of it for little money on Ebay!) like the Mouse stories of Casty and Doubleduck, furthermore they gave to us some of the new Van Horn stories, but also classic material and all of that in good quality regarding paper and color. It´s right that some of their projects failed but the same happened to Gladstone, to Gemstone and to every Disney publisher. The difference between Whitman and Boom is that Whitman published solely weak or rehashed material which is not true for Boom.

Roger North wrote:
I hope that the next company to publish Disney Comics will a better job than Boom Studios. I guess you can say that Boom Studios is the Whitman Publishing of the 21st Century.

Roger North · 2011-12-03 14:57

Maybe so but a lot of people have been saying more negative things than positive things. I don't agree with what they say but the fact is that a lot of people have been complaining about the material that Boom Studios publishes. I don't mind new material being published but at least with Gladstone and Gemstone a majority of the staff members are people who grew up on Disney Comics. They actually cared about their readers unlike Boom Studios who were only in on it for the money. I heard that Whitman published some lousy stories but ever since they obtained the Disney Comics License a lot of people have saying how bad the material is. I mean yeah they brought back comic books based on some of the former Disney Afternoon shows but they could have done a better job with the classic characters. My verdict may not be fair but the facts are that a lot more people hated the Disney Comics that Boom Studios published than those that liked them. I think the same was true for Whitman. That's why I said Boom Studios is the Whitman of the 21st Century.

Charlie Brown · 2012-09-09 14:04

I bought the trade paperback last week and finished reading it today. This is one of the worst "drawn" Disney comics I ever read. A lot of panels have characters that look like copied and upscaled on a cheap graphic program. I get the impression that Boom wanted to make some money with less effort before the end of it's Disney time.

I thought about throwing the book away, but perhaps I keep it as a historic item for this bad time.

kimba_1962 · 2012-09-09 20:20

Manduck wrote:
The cameo scene is kind of interesting. I think the only ones on the cover of DuckTales #5 who didn't appear in the actual issue (or either new comic series) are Grizlikoff, Sara Bellum, Stegmutt, Neptunia and Pete. But anyway I think they managed to get the entire DuckTales cast in the series. So Bubba - and the Genie Duck - are finally acknowledged. I honestly didn't care too much for either character, but I find it a little bothersome that Scrooge apparently abandoned two children he adopted. I'd prefer it if they just were left out of the story completely.

Scrooge never (officially) adopted Genie-turned-boy. I know that it SEEMED like it at the end of DT:TM, but I don't think adoption was ever explicitly referenced.

Mr. M · 2012-09-09 21:28

Well more-or-less. The Genie was living with them, they never explain what happend to him so we can asume he was living with Scrooge and Scrooge tell him he can call him "uncle"...

kimba_1962 · 2012-09-09 22:03

Mr. M wrote:
Well more-or-less. The Genie was living with them, they never explain what happend to him so we can asume he was living with Scrooge and Scrooge tell him he can call him "uncle"...

If you're right, then can we assume that Genie's room is in the attic or the garage, as the Nephews' was at the start of "Treasure of the Golden Suns"? That seems to be Step 1 on the trip up the ladder...

:-)

Roger North · 2012-09-09 22:51

I have never seen the Genie anywhere outside the movie except for his cameo appearance in Dangerous Currency.

Mr. M · 2012-09-09 23:10

kimba_1962 wrote:
If you're right, then can we assume that Genie's room is in the attic or the garage, as the Nephews' was at the start of "Treasure of the Golden Suns"? That seems to be Step 1 on the trip up the ladder...

:-)

I asume living in the cave in Scrooge's garden is step "zero". It woudn't supprise me if Bubba is the lowest in Scrooge nephew hierarchy.

Wow, this technicaly make Scrooge living with SIX kids who refrence him as "uncle". I wonder did neighbors did ever found the whole thing suspicious and Scrooge got visit from the police or something...

ACTUALLY if there's one Issue of "Duck Tales" I would like to see would be a story betwen "DuckTales" and "QuackPack" (I always asume they are ment to be the same univers) where Donald finally gets back from navy and have to take boys back home... I just find something bizzarle sad about this idea . Boys would be happy to be back with Donald but at the same time they worry Scrooge will get lonely without them, they start to reminisce all the adventures they had together. This could make a very emotional and melancholic story...

Lars Jensen · 2012-09-09 23:12

Mr. M wrote:
ACTUALLY if there's one Issue of "Duck Tales" I would like to see would be a story betwen "DuckTales" and "QuackPack" (I always asume they are ment to be the same univers)

They're not. IIRC, they were originally intended to... but they're not.

Mr. M · 2012-09-09 23:15

Lars Jensen wrote:
They're not. IIRC, they were originally intended to... but they're not.

Fair enough.
I DO remember an episode of "Quack Pack" when Donald did had to go back to the navy whcih appears to be a DuckTales refrence but I guess that's as far they went

Baar Baar Jinx · 2012-09-09 23:36

Mr. M wrote:
I DO remember an episode of "Quack Pack" when Donald did had to go back to the navy whcih appears to be a DuckTales refrence but I guess that's as far they went

That particular episode ("All Hands on Duck") is an anomaly in that it featured anthropomorphic characters (including Admiral Grimitz) rather than humans. With its reference to Donald's navy career, it's clearly a direct sequel to DuckTales, unlike the series as a whole. Did they have a leftover DuckTales script or something? I'm curious to learn the background of this unique episode.

Mr. M · 2012-09-10 00:24

I just seen it (hurray for you-tube) and I must say this looks like some odd link betwen "DuckTales" and "Quack Pack". Heck! Even the plot is similiar to the episode "All ducks on deck" (ironic..) where Donald lies to HD&L about being a great hero while in fact he is a failure... (here they replace the boys with Daisy) Plus we actually get a flashback showing him leaving the navy.
I guess since this is in fact "episode five" they wanted to make - even a symbolic - connection with "DuckTales" so kids woudn't get confuse why Donald isn't still in the navy or something.

I find the admiral character is especialy strange.. at one hand it appears they try to make it clear he is ment to be the same character (he play with a model ship, he is constant victim of Donald destructive behavior plus the fact his a dog-face character rather then human like the rest of the cast) but at the same time he is way diffrent - he appears to be younger, more agresive, more of a bully (If not a insane and sadistic one) and way less sympathethic... But I guess you can argue that years and years of puting up with Donald antics made him a complitly diffrent person... Sadly in his case he turn from a ok guy into a villian

I still think its a shame they didn't try to have Scrooge or Gladstone guest star for a episode in "Quack Pack" since it was still set in Duckburg... Oh, well...

Roger North · 2012-09-10 14:07

Yeah It is a pity that neither Scrooge or Gladstone appeared on Quack Pack. It would been cool to see Gyro on the show too. Maybe even The Beagle Boys or Magica De Spell or even Flintheart Glomgold. Maybe this is why I think the show Duckburg USA should be created. That show takes place roughly between Duck Tales and Quack Pack.

Mr. M · 2012-09-10 14:36

There were plans for such show? o_O

I always hoped if they will ever try to make another Duckburg-set show it would include characters like Brigida, Rockerduck or Fethry...

Roger North wrote:
It would been cool to see Gyro on the show too. Maybe even The Beagle Boys or Magica De Spell or even Flintheart Glomgold.

A Beagle Boy made once a cameo in "Quack Pack" episode, as a statue Donald use to train gourd dogs.

Baar Baar Jinx · 2012-09-10 18:01

Mr. M wrote:
There were plans for such show? o_O

Actually, that was the initial vision for Quack Pack (Donald returning from the navy and reclaiming care of the boys from Scrooge) until some Disney executives thought it made more sense to create a Donald Duck series based on the Donald Duck shorts rather than DuckTales or the Barks universe. Ergo, the human characters and Ludwig but no Scrooge, Gyro or Gladstone. As mentioned, "All Hands on Duck" (and I guess that Beagle Boy cameo) are the execeptions to that rule.

Mr. M · 2012-09-11 01:42

Too bad. Sounds like a good idea... sad

I'm still puzzled (and disappointed) that Barks characters aren't use in animation more often which is a shame since shows like "Quack Pack", "Mickey Mouse Works" or even toddler-orienred "Mickey Mouse clubhouse" could only benefit from having those chracters around and ignoring them feels like a big step back.

Scrooge is by far the only character who is used from time to time (but even then we didn't seen him since the directed to DVD CGI movie "Mickey Twice upon Christmas" in 2005) and the city where Donald lives is still refrence as Duckburg... but Gyro, Magica or Gladstone waren't used since "DuckTales" [I'm not couting Magicas and Glomolds cameo in episode of "Darkwing Duck" and Gladstones in "House of Mouse"] Beagle Boys where only agian used in "The three Musketeers" [plus agian some cameos on "Bonkers", "Darkwing Duck" and examople above] and we never even got a animated version of characters like neighbor Jones not to mention some non-Barks characters many fans would love to see like Fethry or Brigida...
Seeing how many cartoons they manage to make with having only Donald, Daisy and the nephews around I'm pretty sure they could make as many whith those other characters as well...

BTW -> For years I was 100% sure VonDrake appear on "Quack Pack" ocasionally but I recently discoverd he was only in the first episode and then refrence in another one which is another shame as well...

Roger North · 2012-09-11 15:19

Oh Yeah but that's the only time A Beagle Boy was used on that show. It was 2004 when Mickey's Twice Upon A Christmas was released.

Mr. M · 2013-02-15 17:25

BTW -> Can GeoX make a full review of the DUCKTALES KA-BOOM story in his usual fashion? smile

That would be fun...

Roger North · 2013-02-15 18:28

That would be cool to see. Maybe he can do reviews of the Darkwing Duck stories too.

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