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#1 2008-03-13 19:51

Dean Rekich
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New Carl Barks and Don Rosa Libraries from Gemstone!!!

If you do a search on amazon.com with Gemstone as the publisher and search by newest publications first, you can see what Gemstone has planned to the end of 2008.  And boy do they have some neat stuff!

On November 5, 2008, Gemstone plans on releasing The Carl Barks Collection Set 1 (Hardcover) for $150 and will contain 960 pages.

On December 24, 2008 Gemstone plans on releasing The Don Rosa Library Volume 1: 1987-1988 (Hardcover) for $39.95 and it will contain 208 pages.

The Walt Disney Treasures volume this year will be devoted to Mickey and contain Gottfredson's "Mickey Mouse in Death Valley" and Scarpa's "Chirikawa Necklace"

I would like to hear what others think of this news.  I myself am very excited, even if my wallet and credit cards are a little upset! smile  I am thrilled that Gemstone is finally publishing Barks and Rosa libraries!

Now the only thing left for Gemstone to do is start publishing a 3rd monthly prestige title.  Yes, I know it has nothing much to do with this topic, but I can't help but asking for it in almost every thread! smile

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#2 2008-03-14 01:12

Olivier
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Re: New Carl Barks and Don Rosa Libraries from Gemstone!!!

This is most wonderful news.
Thanks for leting us know, Dean!

Congratulations & thanks to Gemstone team for these new Lbiraries!

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#3 2008-03-14 01:14

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Re: New Carl Barks and Don Rosa Libraries from Gemstone!!!

Now that the cat has peeked out of the bag, may we have a few details, David, please?

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#4 2008-03-14 01:22

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Re: New Carl Barks and Don Rosa Libraries from Gemstone!!!

Olivier wrote:

Now that the cat has peeked out of the bag, may we have a few details, David, please?

Amazon.com has a habit of listing all sorts of items that will never be published. If I were you, I wouldn't get too excited until Gemstone actually confirms these projects.

Sorry to be such a downer.


The answer is no.

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#5 2008-03-14 01:27

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Re: New Carl Barks and Don Rosa Libraries from Gemstone!!!

Well, amazon.com is not imdb.com, which can be updated by anyone; amazon's information comes from the publishers, doesn't it? Anything may very well happen to delay and even prevent items from being released, but I suppose Gemstone were sure enough to inform amazon.

Or does amazon get its information other ways? From the services attributing ISBNs, maybe?
I have never thought about it.

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#6 2008-03-14 01:29

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Re: New Carl Barks and Don Rosa Libraries from Gemstone!!!

Besides, amazon.com even have cover pictures-- which are always subject to change, but still, I seriously doubt they make them up.

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#7 2008-03-14 02:23

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Re: New Carl Barks and Don Rosa Libraries from Gemstone!!!

I can't give many details about these projects yet, other than to confirm that for right now they're in the works. Plans have been known to change, though. Lars is correct: Amazon's listings often reflect projects (from all publishers) that may not ultimately come out as originally expected.
But at least you can see what we presently *want* to do.

The cover pictures at this point, by the way, are just quick "Americanizations" of similar volumes already published by Egmont. Our final editions may look very different (and may not be identical to Egmont's equivalents inside, either).


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#8 2008-03-14 03:07

Robb_K
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Re: New Carl Barks and Don Rosa Libraries from Gemstone!!!

I will buy The Barks Collection and Gottfredson Library.  I hope the total costs won't be too terrifying.  I also look forward to the Mickey Mouse  Disney Treasures.


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#9 2008-03-14 03:33

Dean Rekich
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Re: New Carl Barks and Don Rosa Libraries from Gemstone!!!

ramapith wrote:

But at least you can see what we presently *want* to do.

David, that is good enough for me for now! Yes, of course plans can change, publication dates may slide, etc.  Just the fact though that Gemstone has definite plans to do them in the near future is the important thing.  What exact date they are released on, what the total content is, etc. pales in significance to the fact that we should be getting Barks, Gottfredson, and Rosa Libraries!

Of course, please update us with *any* details *whenever* you can! smile

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#10 2008-03-14 06:30

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Re: New Carl Barks and Don Rosa Libraries from Gemstone!!!

$150 for the first Barks volume (1 of 10)! Thanks, but no thanks. Unless you're paying with euros, then it's a mere 96 euros. 

I'll stick with the dozens of reprints that I already own and for which I've already paid. I mean, how many versions of the same story do I want? How much more shelf-space am I willing to sacrifice? But I understand these new versions will be bound between two hard covers and the colors will be different [better]. roll

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#11 2008-03-14 07:11

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Re: New Carl Barks and Don Rosa Libraries from Gemstone!!!

Hi. New to the forum. Thanks for the info on upcoming Barks Library set (even though I have 7 of the ten previous sets from Another Rainbow) and the Don Rosa Set. I'm In! I have placed my advanced orders with Amazon. Can't wait for the Gottferdson hardback to come out in August. As for a third title from the glorious Gemstone, we can keep hoping. As it is, I am colecting the first run of Mickey Mouse and Friends, but would be very happy to see a third title. -Mykal


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#12 2008-03-14 09:43

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Re: New Carl Barks and Don Rosa Libraries from Gemstone!!!

It depends on the quality of the paper, size and print, but $150 doesn't seem to be an abnormal price to me, for a special 960 pages book. At the bookstore I usually go to buy Gemstone comics, the seller is himself sometimes surprised about the relatively low price of such books (for instance, "Mickey and the Gang" was very much affordable). Of course, it's also a good time to buy for us europeans smile

Anyway, happy to hear about the good news, I'll definitely get the books! (and most of all the Gottfredson library)

I assume that the new Barks collection will probably be much better than the previous one by Another Rainbow (with new materials and so on), like the Barks Scandinavian collection.

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#13 2008-03-14 10:28

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Re: New Carl Barks and Don Rosa Libraries from Gemstone!!!

This is great news. I will definitely buy these sets.

But why is the Don Rosa book coming out on 24 December? They'll be missing out on a lot of potential Christmas sales.


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#14 2008-03-14 13:19

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Re: New Carl Barks and Don Rosa Libraries from Gemstone!!!

Morequack wrote:

$150 for the first Barks volume (1 of 10)! Thanks, but no thanks.

The equivalent amount of material costs $300 in Scandinavia. Yeah, I know... That doesn't really help, does it?  smile


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#15 2008-03-14 13:54

Lars Jensen
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Re: New Carl Barks and Don Rosa Libraries from Gemstone!!!

I'm sorry to once again be such a downer, but... David Gerstein wrote that these projects are what the people at Gemstone

ramapith wrote:

presently *want* to do.

Everyone, there's a huge difference between *wanting* to do something and actually *doing* it. We all know that Gemstone *wanted* to do some black & white Shonen Jump-style books last year... and those didn't end up happening, did they? Or take the Scandinavian Carl Barks Collection: it was on Egmont's drawing board for almost *ten years* before it came out.

I've visited Amazon's website many times over the years, and I know that publishing dates, prices and contents information on upcoming publications often change before the publications are out. Why not postpone jumping up and down with joy until we at the very least have an official press release from Gemstone stating that they will indeed publish these projects at some specific date?


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#16 2008-03-14 18:00

Dean Rekich
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Re: New Carl Barks and Don Rosa Libraries from Gemstone!!!

Lars Jensen wrote:

I'm sorry to once again be such a downer, but... David Gerstein wrote that these projects are what the people at Gemstone

ramapith wrote:

presently *want* to do.

Everyone, there's a huge difference between *wanting* to do something and actually *doing* it. We all know that Gemstone *wanted* to do some black & white Shonen Jump-style books last year... and those didn't end up happening, did they? Or take the Scandinavian Carl Barks Collection: it was on Egmont's drawing board for almost *ten years* before it came out.

I've visited Amazon's website many times over the years, and I know that publishing dates, prices and contents information on upcoming publications often change before the publications are out. Why not postpone jumping up and down with joy until we at the very least have an official press release from Gemstone stating that they will indeed publish these projects at some specific date?

Well, Lars, perhaps I am just being naively optimistic, but then again I am never really thought of as a "glass is half full" kind of person... smile

Two reason why I think there is a good chance that these projects will see the light of day in the near future:

One, while David said that they *want* to do these books, I guess the better word might be *plan*.  I don't think they would have sent the info to amazon if this was just some pie in the sky wish for something they might do way down the road.

Two, while items on amazon may be listed and then never appear, I have found that is seldom the case with Gemstone.  Right now the only items that I can think of that were listed and never appeared were a few issues of Mickey Mouse Adventures and Donald Duck Adventures, but then again these titles were cancelled as periodicals.

Finally, thanks for the support for a 3rd monthly title, Mykal.  Wouldn't it be great if there could be one by the end of 2008 or the beginnning of 2009!

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#17 2008-03-14 21:56

ramapith
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Re: New Carl Barks and Don Rosa Libraries from Gemstone!!!

Dean, I'm afraid I need to split the difference between yourself and Lars. While I like to share your optimism, Lars is himself right that things are pretty durn tentative. Our distribution arm asks us to submit our information for Amazon—and other online retailers—nearly a year in advance. So these early plans are often subject to change.

As for the third monthly title: fans on this forum and in other online forums have expressed quite an interest in this; but the way to have the biggest impact with all involved parties at Gemstone is to send suggestions and requests not just to the DCF, but directly to our lettercol e-mail addresses, where more of our staff will see them.
At present, the lettercols have received fewer letters in favor of a third title and more letters in favor of irregular specials and one-shots, so that's what we've been planning. From the buzz I find online, I myself suspect more people would like to see the third title—but this isn't reflected in the letters that our lettercols are actually receiving. If you feel differently, squawk back!

It's as easy as... wdcs@gemstonepub.com us@gemstonepub.com

Some have suggested a monthly Mickey/Donald combination title. Others like the idea of a bimonthly Mickey book and a bimonthly Donald, switching off month by month. Were we to expand our line (not that it's likely to happen right away, what with all these specials we're doing!), what would you like to see?


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#18 2008-03-15 01:18

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Re: New Carl Barks and Don Rosa Libraries from Gemstone!!!

With all the necessary caution, it's still great to know that there are serious plans for such Libraries, and that, though nothing has been yet set in stone, there was confidence and reason enough to give amazon such information-- which surely could not be possible without the approval of those concerned at the might Walt Disney Company; those same people may still scratch the project, next week or one week before printing starts, but it's still good to know things are evolving in this direction, and I understand how difficult your position is, David.

As for the price, Europeans obviously have a serious advantage (though the shipping can be expensive), but even in the U.S.A., $150 is most reasonable for such quality.
I absolutely do not regret getting the deluxe Mickey and the Gang, nor regularly upgrading my E.C. Library to the new E.C. Archives: the paper quality is very high, the coloring is splendid, and every page is gorgeous. I bet the Disney archive series (Gottfredson, Rosa, Barks), will be done the same.

E.C.'s archive books (Superman, Batman, The Spirit, ...) are $50 each (less on amazon, but so will the Gemstone books be; I'm comparing the suggested retail prices), and though beautiful, they absolutely cannot compete with Gemsteon's E.C. Library: each volume of the latter is about 10 pages and  stories shorter than DC's, but it's also larger and much better printed-- DC's books are not shabby at all, far from it, but Gemstone's are a deluxe version.

$150 for what will surely be a 3-volume set, like the first CBL, makes it the same; it's more at once, but over a longer period, and I am also sure the plans are for more than a reprint, with new essays, pictures, ...

My best wishes to Gemstone's team!

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#19 2008-03-15 07:20

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Re: New Carl Barks and Don Rosa Libraries from Gemstone!!!

Dean Rekich wrote:

Two reason why I think there is a good chance that these projects will see the light of day in the near future:

One, while David said that they *want* to do these books, I guess the better word might be *plan*.  I don't think they would have sent the info to amazon if this was just some pie in the sky wish for something they might do way down the road.

Two, while items on amazon may be listed and then never appear, I have found that is seldom the case with Gemstone.  Right now the only items that I can think of that were listed and never appeared were a few issues of Mickey Mouse Adventures and Donald Duck Adventures, but then again these titles were cancelled as periodicals.

On the other hand Amazon was in denial for years about Gemstone's Uncle Scrooge #319. They kept claiming that the comic would be available within a couple of weeks, then a month or so. Then it was two months, then three, and four... and so on. Meanwhile I had contacted Gemstone and they claimed that that issue was sold out and not slated to be reprinted. Meanwhile Amazon kept informing the public via their website that they expect to ship at a later date. Finally Amazon had to concede the reality that this issue was no longer going to be available. But it took them a number of YEARS. I don't know who was responsible for the mis-information, Amazon or Gemstone. But the bottom line: I would not take to heart Amazon's word for such things.

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#20 2008-03-15 13:48

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Re: New Carl Barks and Don Rosa Libraries from Gemstone!!!

Availability is rather fickle on amazon, I've noticed that too-- and it's even worse in France, where the comics are never available before at least a month.
I had to get one or two issues from Midtown Comics because amazon never carried them, months and months after their release; I also got one MM&F from them, which Mile-High Comics never could get either somehow.

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#21 2008-03-16 12:52

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Re: New Carl Barks and Don Rosa Libraries from Gemstone!!!

I have, as of today, pre-ordered this amazing collection!

If we get Carl Barks Collected Works without the childhood diseases, hysteric colouring and amatourish translations, this is the best that has happened to mankind since the invention of the bottle-opener...

...look forward to receive my copy by Nov-Dec 2008

(But then again - one must be patient - it's been seen before, that this can be a long, slow and narrow path!)

Regarding the ten Danish volumes of Carl Barks Samlede Værker - we are about to get to the finishing line AND by now the "childhood deseases" are gone - GONE AT LAST!
Now Egmont has send out requests about possible interests in continuing the series with three further volumes with Barks non-Disney series, his CEO's and other things, concerning his artistic life - which I, for one, finds most interesting...

Keep on trucking!!

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#22 2008-03-16 16:48

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Re: New Carl Barks and Don Rosa Libraries from Gemstone!!!

Robb_K wrote:

I will buy The Barks Collection and Gottfredson Library.

I do hope that many people will buy the Rosa Library too – that series will be a dream come true for many Duck-fans.

I will not by the other two because I already have the old CBL + the present Norwegian CBSV. Neither will I by the US Gottfredson Library, because of the censorship and I also find the slang a bit difficult to understand. But I hope there someday will be published a Norwegian uncensored FGSV instead.

By the way, I also hope that there will be a Paul Murry Mouse Library sometime in the future, limited to the majority of his stories that take place in the Mouse-universe.


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#23 2008-03-16 17:17

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Re: New Carl Barks and Don Rosa Libraries from Gemstone!!!

Sigvald wrote:

By the way, I also hope that there will be a Paul Murry Mouse Library sometime in the future, limited to the majority of his stories that take place in the Mouse-universe.

The world needs a Taliaferro Collection.

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#24 2008-03-16 18:38

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Re: New Carl Barks and Don Rosa Libraries from Gemstone!!!

Sigvald wrote:

Robb_K wrote:

I will buy The Barks Collection and Gottfredson Library.

I do hope that many people will by the Rosa Library too – that series will be a dream come true for many Duck-fans.

I will not by the other two because I already have the old CBL + the present Norwegian CBSV. Neither will I by the US Gottfredson Library, because of the censorship and I also find the slang a bit difficult to understand. But I hope there someday will be published a Norwegian uncensored FGSV instead.

By the way, I also hope that there will be a Paul Murry Mouse Library sometime in the future, limited to the majority of his stories that take place in the Mouse-universe.

Sigvald:  What makes you think that if Gemstone does the groundwork in assembling a Gottfredson Library, that Egmont won't take advantage of that, and print their own versions in Scandanavia and Germany a few years later?


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#25 2008-03-16 20:20

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Re: New Carl Barks and Don Rosa Libraries from Gemstone!!!

Robb_K wrote:

Sigvald:  What makes you think that if Gemstone does the groundwork in assembling a Gottfredson Library, that Egmont won't take advantage of that, and print their own versions in Scandinavia and Germany a few years later?

There must be a misunderstanding here? What you are saying is exactly what I am thinking. I do believe that Egmont will publish a Gottfredson Collection/Library as long as Gemstone does so. Furthermore I believe that Egmont's version will be uncensored (at least more than Gemstones version) - just compare CBSV with CBL and you'll understand what I mean.


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